[Kokopeli]

Ok, is there any real reason we don't use the ATV / Baja / Trophy Truck style "gas can" aka hazardous liquid container?

They come in 5 gal capacity and the fill hose has an on / off valve built in. It also has a threaded cap at the end. The hose can be easily switched between cans and everyone I have talked to says they have never had a container leak..

Here's the type container I'm talking about...

 

[DominicG]

well, they are not easily mountable. They are great for sticking in the corner of the truck bed, but, we don't have that feature with FJ's.

 

[FunJunkie]

I'd be leery of storing it on it's side but if yo made a bumper carrier for ir it wuld probably work out pretty good. Quick fill times too.

 

[Acetechno]

I've always wanted one of thoes gas cans. Where do you get them and what is the cost. BTW I would use them with the FJ up on the rack and strap them down. Put like 5 in a row.

 

[cruiserlarry]

Ok, is there any real reason we don't use the ATV / Baja / Trophy Truck style "gas can" aka hazardous liquid container?

They come in 5 gal capacity and the fill hose has an on / off valve built in. It also has a threaded cap at the end. The hose can be easily switched between cans and everyone I have talked to says they have never had a container leak..

Here's the type container I'm talking about...

I think the reason is that those cans are not legal to mount on a street-driven vehicle...they don't meet CARB standards...

 

[Kokopeli]

I think the reason is that those cans are not legal to mount on a street-driven vehicle...they don't meet CARB standards...

But are there really CARP Police driving around issuing non-CARB compliance tickets?

I've always wanted one of thoes gas cans. Where do you get them and what is the cost. BTW I would use them with the FJ up on the rack and strap them down. Put like 5 in a row.

I got mine at Hahm Motorsports in Anaheim. I picked through their stock and found a few marked at $24.95. The others were $36.95. I asked the salesman what the difference between the two cans was and the only thing he could come up with is that they came from different vendors (both cans had identical labeling, from the same manufacturer). The pour spout is another $17.95, but I just bought one of those, figuring I could just move it between the cans.

I'll be giving the cans a try in a couple weeks.

 

[cruiserlarry]

But are there really CARB Police driving around issuing non-CARB compliance tickets?

Actually, yes. The CHP employs a fleet of pickups and single-color vehicles that go around looking for vehicle code and safety violations.
Their primary focus is on big-rigs, but they will attack any prey if hungry....

 

[FJVP]

They are known as safety code enforcment, I have been stopped by them in a semi in the past.

 

[Kokopeli]

Actually, yes. The CHP employs a fleet of pickups and single-color vehicles that go around looking for vehicle code and safety violations.
Their primary focus is on big-rigs, but they will attack any prey if hungry....

Interesting.. I've seen them attacking big-rigs before.

Hope I didin't come across as being a smartass earlier, I honestly didn't know.

Oh well.. I've purchased 3 of these containers and will use them until told not to by the powers that be.

Thanks for the input Larry.
~Brian

 

[uphill]

My only concern with this type of container is that the on/off lever might be moved from "off" to "just a little on" while running off-road. We do bounce a lot. In the winter it would be dangerous, on a hot roof on a hot day in the desert, we're back to the Molotov C0cktail scenario. I don't like the idea unless you could demonstrate that they're as safe as the screw cap cans.

 

[Kokopeli]

Re: More Fuel Can Discussion.. - UPDATE

Ok, after spending the $$ on 4 "cans" AND the $80 to fill them up, I had planned on trying them out on the Death Valley run I was on the first weekend of May. After I filled a can, I intentionally left them on their side as I filled the next. Two of them leaked (in the cargo area of my FJ, none the less) so I ended up getting the plastic gerry cans that Kragen sells. They worked beautifully on the 100+ miles worth of trail. Not a drop was leaked.

If anyone else is considering using the jugs, learn from my mistake and save your cash. You can get the plastic gerry cans (made by Scepter, I think) from Kragen Auto for $20 per can, a savings of almost $5.00 per can.

~Brian

 

[FJ-Piper]

I also went with Sceptre (Made in Canada) one of the few countries I trust for manucaturing. I got (2) fuel and (1) Potable Water from Pep Boys

 

[Hardluck]

I have four Wedco jerry cans - two that are CARB compliant and two that are the original design. As far as leaks, neither design has leaked when I had them strapped to my roof rack. From a design perspective I find the CARB compliant jerry can's spout to be a PITHA. It is just not very user friendly. However, this mostly isn't a problem becasue I use a super siphon, it just becomes a problem when I am trying to get the last bit of gas out of the can.

 

[Kokopeli]

I have four Wedco jerry cans - two that are CARB compliant and two that are the original design. As far as leaks, neither design has leaked when I had them strapped to my roof rack. From a design perspective I find the CARB compliant jerry can's spout to be a PITHA. It is just not very user friendly. However, this mostly isn't a problem becasue I use a super siphon, it just becomes a problem when I am trying to get the last bit of gas out of the can.

I just bought a long funnel and use that, bypassing the CARB spout all together.

 

[CADavebert]

I like Uphill's remedy for the CARB spouts..... a funnel. Those can still be purchased legally.

 

[Kokopeli]

I like Uphill's remedy for the CARB spouts..... a funnel. Those can still be purchased legally.

Yep.. That's what I use too.

 

[Hardluck]

The funnels a good idea - funny, I never thought of that ???

 

[CADavebert]

The funnels a good idea - funny, I never thought of that ???

I know what you mean. As soon as he said it, a big "DUH" went off in my head.

 

[uphill]

I really don't need a can on top with the 250 lbs of gasoline I have in the main and aux. tanks but I did put a 5 gallon can on top, though as a "good karma can" - "good Samaritan can" or whatever in case I need to give away trail gas to somebody who needs it. I used a steel Jerry Can and mounted it inside an Expeditionware mount and fastened it to the OEM rack with a FourTreks fuel can mount. The steel can won't expand the way the plastic ones do in the heat and it will tend to survive better in the long haul. I threw away the carb filler spout and yes, I use a funnel. I can't say that mine is the best solution but after thinking it through A LOT, I came up with this plan.

 

[Fjamming]

The Wedcos look nice. Expedition Exchange sells them and have pretty good write ups. I feel they are a reputable place to deal business with. I would trust that they won't leak.